Why no female submariners

On more than one occassion, I recall Shore Patrol being called in to escort some gal out of the men's barracks because of all the noise she was making during sex! NOTE: There was no such problem in the women's barracks Long story short, when equal numbers of men AND women are defending AFTER they register to sign up for the draft!!! I retired after 28 years in the Navy, 17 years in subs and 11 years on sub tenders and shore stations.

Yes all military men and women are proud of being in the military and are professional in their careers. But when the opportunity presents itself Fraternization from the Commanding Officer down to the lowest seaman prevails.

We can't keep drugs off the ships or the shore commands. What makes anyone think they can keep a lid on sex while deployed or as soon as the ship or sub docks its off to find a place to do it. The Chain of Command has enough problems just carrying out their mission without it being compromized by fraternization. In addition now the chain of command has to deal with the cheating married personnel when they return home and the spouse is upset.

Shipmates like to take pictures when they are on liberty and the friendly picture of a military man and woman embracing somehow always makes it back to the spouse.

Subs may be small but there is always a way to find a place. I have heard arguments over and over about the conflict of having both men and women serving together in the close confines of a submarine. I have also heard that it would cost significant money to have additional, separate facilities put into submarines for the female sailors. These two seemingly overwhelming hurdles to accomodating women as submariners are bunk. A simple, cost effective method of placing women into service as submariners was suggested by myself at Subase Kings Bay, GA years ago but the senior Navy leadership ther did not want to consider it.

Essentially, each submarine has two crews - one Blue and one Gold. Anyone who disagrees with this idea better come up with a job aboard a submarine that a women cannot perform. If not, then this is the simplest, most cost effective answer. Concerning submarines, there are additional concerns. These boats go on prolonged missions where their precise location is a secret.

Men don't get pregnant. Women don't know they're pregnant until they miss their menstrual flow and "morning sickness" begins. The pregnant woman is, to a varying degree, incapacitated and needs medical evaluation. That's the standard of care in the U. Exposure to the artificial,sealed, atmosphere of the submarine has not been established as safe for a woman in her first trimester. Is it worth terminating a submarine's mission to replace a pregnant sailor?

Quit fighting the problem. Let the problem work for you. Have all females who want to serve on subs sign a disclaimer that they understand and accept all ramifications of living with men.

It'll take a special kind of woman to do that. And then let the good times roll. Among consenting adults, what is good for morale off base can be good for morale onboard.

So get real; quit trying to shoe horn adults into unreal worlds. Having not served on submarines or in the Navy, I can only put my Air Force two cents worth in. I believe it would be a bad idea to have this. As a supervisor in the Air Force, more than once I would have a female worker come up to me and complain about the time of the month.

When told she would need to go to the hospital and follow their instructions, all of a sudden she had no problems. What would happen if this same scenario on board a sub, that is tightly packed as it is, occur?

And if a female got pregnant at the beginning of the cruise what happens? Will the recycled air be good for her and the baby? What about the potential problems that submariners face all the time? It was bad enough when the military told us not to smoke in the offices we had to go outside to smoke, now women on subs?

NO WAY. For you Navy guys and gals, I thank you for your time in service above the water and below the water. This is a difficult situation, but everyone lets get to the truth, men do really stupid things in a severely stressful situation.

This argument has nothing to do with Ability, a woman can do a man's jobs, no doubt, but when the bullets start flying people get really agitated and the stress level will cause many men to blame any mistakes on the weakest link, and perceptually a woman would fit into that role just by the current military culture.

Not to mention, guys, when they are in need of affection will misread just about any signal when they are at high stress.

The ban was overturned in after medical research showed the concerns were unfounded, although there remains a risk that fumes could harm an unborn child. A women-only sign can be fixed on the shower. Subscription Notification.

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