Can you cleanse out of malz ult

Technically, it is the strongest support item to build against malzahar, just because of the mr. So the recommendation isnt wrong. Just out of context. I dont know if it was fixed but i was seeing it constantly recomended to me against yasuo even though his knock up is not blockable with mikael. I can't tell how many times I got this item recommended against Yasuo and Alistar when they have airborne that can't be cleansed with it. Also yesterday I played the game vs malz as nocturne, and his ult ignored my edge of night.

Is that normal interaction? And if it is, why lol. His ult has two parts. For one the puddle under you and then the suppression. Maybe the puddle triggers edge of night? If that's the case that's one of the dumbest interactions in the game. Malz can easily proc EoN before ulting someone, this makes EoN worthless against him. It is same with Syndra, Spellshields only take away one of the balls. There are other champions like that too.

But that somewhat makes sense, because her ult is literally taking balls and throwing them. With malzahar it doesn't remove anything, you still take full dmg and you are suppressed for 2 seconds. I mean I assume Spellshield does remove some damage from the ult, just not the suppression. I think Syndra stun might work like that were spellshield takes away the W damage but not the damage from the ball passing you and its stun. But I don't think this is true for Malz though.

Because I think the suppression applies first. Something that might happen, similar to Soraka or Viktor though is that since Malzahar is not interrupted he simply renews the Suppresion and only the first 0,25s of suppression are blocked by the shield.

Sorakas silence field works like that in that it removes the spellshield and then just applies silence again. It is basically a target that first knocks the target down, then suppresses them and then places the field. This means that a spellshield might also remove the knock down iE riots word for interrupting dashes.

But my most likely guess is that he casted in fact E before the channel, because this is what Malz would do. I'm pretty sure you cannot precast 2 abilities and he already precasted R and flash ulted me, so his E couldn't go off I was barely in range when he flashed too so it was definitely precast R.

I also watched it in 0. R doesn't have a casttime. Another option is item interaction. Night Harvester as one example disables Malz passive without it actually reducing damage of the ability triggering it.

Since the part of his R that suppress seems to happen a bit delayed which is sometimes visible if he uses it on fast moving targets which then appear off-center in the nullzone it could be an item on him that created an effect which was blocked by Spell Shield. But then again Malz usually has Liandris and that item already can't be blocked. Well you said it yourself, E has cast time so it's impossible to press E and instantly R someone, since there's still small E cast time in between.

He also didn't have anything unusual, just a normal Liandry build. I might try it out with someone in custom games, because now I'm really curious about what happened.

It's still good against Malzahar. You can't use it on yourself if you're supressed since supression doesn't let you do anything but you can use it on a team mate that gets supressed and it will remove that buff. TBF, it just looks at winrates. It doesn't actually have any specific intelligence to say whether a given item is good versus a specific champion. What it's actually saying is: in games where this champion was present, building this item resulted in a winning game. If enough people built something completely stupid like deathcap on yasuo or something it would become a recommended item in the right situation.

Don't play league cuz you assumed something. Mikaels blessing being recommended as "strong vs malzahar" is a problem. Glomgore 15 points 8 months ago Glomgore 15 points 8 months ago. Kids nowadays dont know nothing about crowd control. Roots, mezzing, enthralled, charmed. Tulkor 4 points 8 months ago Tulkor 4 points 8 months ago. Yvil 15 points 8 months ago Yvil 15 points 8 months ago. Tulkor 3 points 8 months ago Tulkor 3 points 8 months ago. Yvil 11 points 8 months ago Yvil 11 points 8 months ago.

Not being able to move or AA is basically stunned for most champs. GumboFiddler 11 points 8 months ago GumboFiddler 11 points 8 months ago. And yet, that isnt MOST of the cast, which is what was put forward. If you amumu ulted udyr, malph, and riven, sure. If you amumu ulted kai'sa, cass, and darius? Jaunehalla 3 points 8 months ago Jaunehalla 3 points 8 months ago. Valkyrai 2 points 8 months ago Valkyrai LambS 2 points 8 months ago. LoveKina 3 points 8 months ago LoveKina 3 points 8 months ago.

What do you mean 'not anymore', I just said that it does. I'm confused. AshesandCinder 6 points 8 months ago AshesandCinder 6 points 8 months ago. I think it was your wording in reply to the previous comment. The number of people who think one of these two things is crazy: and then from yours: Or that tanking baron makes you deal half damage and that standing behind baron deals more damage to you so it sounds like you were saying its crazy that people still think those things.

Yeah pretty much the explanation given, I thought you implied they were false. GentlemenBehold 8 points 8 months ago GentlemenBehold 8 points 8 months ago. Ronizu 2 points 8 months ago Ronizu AD Shyvana finally viable 2 points 8 months ago. Support people probably aren't getting paid enough to do that kinda extra work.

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Gorakthegreat 1 points 8 months ago Gorakthegreat 1 points 8 months ago. MiraHan 3 points 8 months ago MiraHan 3 points 8 months ago. I only made that mistake once before I read "except airbones and suppressions". Some people don't inform themselves. Gameipedia points 8 months ago Gameipedia Enchanter Top Advocate points 8 months ago. This is absolutely the correct choice here. AlisterRashu 6 points 8 months ago AlisterRashu 6 points 8 months ago.

But you cant cleanse mord ult no? You need qss for it, like malz and skarner. Razoraptorz 8 points 8 months ago Razoraptorz 8 points 8 months ago. He's strong without his R. Still does massive damage, powerful CC, and built in sustain.

AlisterRashu 4 points 8 months ago AlisterRashu 4 points 8 months ago. By that logic Malzahar also has strengths outside of his ultimate, though. Razoraptorz 14 points 8 months ago Razoraptorz 14 points 8 months ago.

AlisterRashu 0 points 8 months ago AlisterRashu 0 points 8 months ago. Scandilinguist 6 points 8 months ago Scandilinguist 6 points 8 months ago. E 2 points 8 months ago E mechanical god 2 points 8 months ago. ThePrehistoricpotato points 8 months ago ThePrehistoricpotato points 8 months ago. SaintTrotsky 17 points 8 months ago SaintTrotsky 17 points 8 months ago. There's no exceptions though. All supressions work like this.

IshEasy 1 points 8 months ago IshEasy 1 points 8 months ago. Penelopisk 5 points 8 months ago Penelopisk Marksman class is a cult 5 points 8 months ago. Alittlebunyrabit 2 points 8 months ago Alittlebunyrabit 2 points 8 months ago. Gameipedia 1 points 8 months ago Gameipedia Enchanter Top Advocate 1 points 8 months ago. Alittlebunyrabit 3 points 8 months ago Alittlebunyrabit 3 points 8 months ago. Also, because remember sources of suppression often also CC their casters in some way.

I still think it's kinda bad in terms of clarity. What would be the difference between a stun and a suppression? ThisisHammy 3 points 8 months ago ThisisHammy 3 points 8 months ago. Zelder 3 points 8 months ago Zelder 3 points 8 months ago. Kronoshifter 1 points 8 months ago Kronoshifter bird daddy 1 points 8 months ago. He isn't able to use his E or Flash during the ult, so it does still limit him a bit. InspiringMilk 1 points 8 months ago InspiringMilk Celestials 1 points 8 months ago.

Urgot and TK are self slows and silences and their suppressions are conditional though. Kcasz 2 points 8 months ago Kcasz 2 points 8 months ago. Isn't Skarner abble to do damage while ulting? I don't know if it's with Q or AA. SimplyPurple 5 points 8 months ago SimplyPurple 5 points 8 months ago. Def1ance -8 points 8 months ago Def1ance -8 points 8 months ago. HardstuccChallenger 3 points 8 months ago HardstuccChallenger 3 points 8 months ago. Zaedulus 4 points 8 months ago Zaedulus 4 points 8 months ago.

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